| The Cool and the Lame |
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posted by: speakmemory (reply) post date: 06.15.04 (8:22 am) this is great, ray. i know exactly what you're talking about. posted by: teatimeturtle (reply) post date: 06.15.04 (2:37 pm) What if she laughs along, but actually thinks the joke is in bad taste? Is that cool or lame? I read Lisa's account and was infinitely intrigued by the thing that ended with a backflip. posted by: evilturtlenecks (reply) post date: 06.15.04 (7:54 pm) Women who laugh along to something they don't agree with would be "Cool Chicks" according to this Laid-Back Guy game. Laid-Back Guys sometimes ask questions that they know may make women uncomfortable. Which suggests that: a) A woman is, according to this game, all the Cooler if she laughs along to something she is uncomfortable with. b) The precise limit at which a woman will stop laughing is the limit of her Cool. Laid-Back Guys find this limit because it shows the extent to which Cool Chicks will agree to the terms of the game. c) The Laid-Back Guy always has a way out of the game. It's called, "It's Just a Joke," and it's designed to make a woman feel lame (i.e. too serious). posted by: teatimeturtle (reply) post date: 06.16.04 (8:45 am) It seems as though you paint these 'laid back guys' as awfully two-dimensional. Is it part of the lame guy (...oops, I mean 'laid back guy') persona to not care what the woman really thinks therefore thinking that she's cooler if she just goes along with whatever he says? Would it be cool (in the grand scheme of things) if the woman turned the tables and made the guy look lame? Obviously the lame guy wouldn't think this was too cool, but as Mr. Shumacher used to say 'We must always look at the big picture.' I think that the woman can trump the 'it's just a joke' card with the 'you're a jerk' card. If she can make the guy feel bad for making her feel bad, then she holds all the cards and can then maybe make him buy her something. haha posted by: kurmidt (reply) post date: 06.16.04 (10:47 pm) 'you're a jerk' sounds too lame. i think she should say something cool like 'glad this ain't your wedding' or perhaps 'can you crush a can in that neck?' posted by: evilturtlenecks (reply) post date: 06.17.04 (10:28 am) Teatime: You're right about the two-dimensionalness of my caricature. The Laid-Back Guy is an abstraction of real guy behaviour distilled from different situations. The important thing is to judge the extent to which this abstraction corresponds to real world guy behaviour. I think Kurm's right: how easy is it to say, "You're a jerk"? Would it turn the tables? How does saying so fit or not fit into the rules of the Laid-Back Guy game? Ultimately, does saying, "You're a jerk" free women from being called Cool or Lame through this game? posted by: Lisa (reply) post date: 06.17.04 (2:55 pm) Reply to: evilturtlenecks--since we're speaking in two dimensions... I think LaidBack Guys want you to work within their system. The extent to which you participate in being a Cool Chick determines how successful they are at being a LaidBack Guy. The reason he wants to be such a Laid Back Guy is that he's insecure at his root. This, of course, implies that he cares what the victim thinks, sometimes it's posturing for other members of the group. The problem is that subtlety is not the Laid Back Guy's forte (see my post on Assholes at the Drake) and making fun of him only works if he understands that you are now the Alpha and he is Beta. Otherwise, leaving the system is the better choice. Other people don't want to admit that his system is corrupt because it implicates them, especially if capital letters are used to describe the behaviour (Racist, Sexist, Classist, Homophobic, Yuppie Asshole, etc.). Capital letters scare people, especially when they don't really know what the terms mean. posted by: Wanda (reply) post date: 03.27.06 (3:46 am) Gotcha real nice blog, great reading for your visitors. |
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